
Bill O'Reilly is a stupid racist posing as a newsman and shamming old people and rednecks into buying poison. To us, there's really nothing worse on television today. Literally nothing. We'd rather every station constantly play HeadOn ads than have to hear about the lying prick ever again. Amazingly, some people disagree. Like this commenter, who said that Keith Olbermann is "every bit as awful" as Billdo. Could it be? Let's take a look.
In order to really get to the bottom of this, we've got to remove politics from the discussion. If you want to crack down hard on Mexican immigration and believe American troops should be in Iraq for another hundred years if that's what it takes, you're probably going to be more likely to side with Billdo. If, however, your values don't gibe with torturing prisoners, chances are you're an Olbermann fan. That's easy and those aren't the answers we're looking for, so try and set aside your particular political biases as we continue.
Let's also agree that both men are liars who distort facts to make points. Here, a video of Keith Olbermann lying:
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What he said there is not true. Now, here, a clip of Billdo lying:
Got it? Both are arrogant liars. Moving on.
If we accept that both O'Reilly and Olbermann are merely demagogues using duplicitous parlor tricks to better cater to their respective, gawking audiences, in order to get to the bottom of whether one really is as disgusting as the other, we've got to decide if one character does more harm with his lies—consider it like being a sniffer in a dog shit contest. To that end, while we're fully willing to admit that Keith Olbermann is a conceited, rich, hypocritical windbag, his saving grace is that at least he's not a rotten bigot like his ugly Irish counterpart.
Bill O'Reilly has proven time and again that he is not only disdainful of blacks, non-Christians, gays and women, but that he's unashamed of his hate. It's almost like the prick gets off on sounding like an old racist sheriff, fire hose in one hand, wife-beatin' stick in the other.
• "But I don't want these people [gays] intruding on a parade where little children are standing there, watching."
• "Most gays did behave properly, but some were exhibitionistic, sir. And whenever you cluster a group like that, you're going to have some of those people."
• "Any woman who signs on to work at Harvard gets 100 pair of shoes…to make it even more enticing, they're gonna give women shoes, because all women want shoes."
• [Responding to Dr. William Frey, who said that in 50 years, whites in America will be outnumbered by minorities] "Yes. We'll all be dead. Thank God, right?"
• "But it's an amazing amount of kids involved with this – 20 – in an affluent school district. This isn't, you know, the inner city; you would think that these kids would have some kind of a values system."
The one incident we can find about Keith Olbermann being a "bigot" comes from several insane-o right wing blogs. It's an old story that accuses the former sportscaster of racism for calling a black football player named Roscoe Parrish "Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles" during an exciting play in a game. It's a ludicrous charge and fails to acknowledge that "Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles" is a very famous restaurant in LA. It's also very different from all the quotes above, from which, you may have noticed, we've excluded O'Reilly's infamous Harlem restaurant rant. That one left room for doubt, those included above do not.

As one final discussion, let's look at the two mens' personal lives for further evidence about their natures. As for any misgivings about Olbermann's relationship with his young girlfriend, it's important to note that this New York article says Katy Tur and Olbermann had "recently" started living together in 2007, when she was 23 (fresh out of UCSB) and he was 48. A huge age difference, indeed, but very legal and completely different from the rumor claiming they started living together when Tur was 17.
O'Reilly, on the other hand, settled out of court in a well publicized battle with Andrea Mackris, a former Fox News employee who claims he sexually harassed her on several occasions, including once when he called her and jerked off while they spoke. Nice guy.
Again, to be sure, Olbermann is not the type of man to beatify, and he should be watched with the same amount of skepticism one brings to a magic show…but he's still better than Bill O'Reilly. That might not be saying much, but it's enough for our discussion here.
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O'Rielly puts a damper on outrageous governmental actions. Olbermann encourages them. Both like to demonize opponents, but in the long run who really does the most damage?
My choice for worst person on your cable:
At least Olbermann can anchor the Superbowl (sort of), if O'Reilly tried that he'd have all the players show proof of insurance, proof of citizenship…
but it really is the lesser of two "shit for brains" here.
This website is so gutless.
I used to teach retarded children….you remind me of them only they were smarter! and nicer. Seriously, I know you guys must be what? 23? to come up with this drivel. Keith O. is a freak and everyone at Rock. knows it but he's the only freak in town that can bring in some sort of ratings for MSLSD. Ratings are going down, have you heard? Nancy and the murders all around the nation are bagging on the pervert's numbers! Whoa! I'd much rather hear about a man with his pants around his ankles who denies killing his pediphile priest than listen to KO lie, rant and rave. Bill OReilly is a blowhard….however, he does invite the "opposition" to come in and go at it with him. Keith is a wimp (come on, you know his skin is soft and so white) who'll only invite on people who will agree with his crazy viewpoint…and he distorts, totally dillusional. I hear he lives with some chick who is about 17…so I suspect he'll be on Nancy's night time gig sometime soon.
bill-o invites the opposition to come on and talks over them and literally yells at them and has zero tolerance for civil discourse. he has no respect for a guest he doesn't agree with. he's the worst kind of human being and a terrible 'newscaster'. he is just like rush, they are entertainers only (if you can sit through their schtick) they say outlandish things to make the news-only i think bill-o actually believes what he says, rush knows his talking points are sensational.
again, shocked at how many angry repubs visit this site….
Olbergoebbels ego is the actual cause of global warming.
@weezy: why do you assume repubs are angry? Not me, this is my place to come and laugh at liberal stupidity. I haven't been so happy since Clinton bought Monica a cigar.
#7–Hmmm–snark—aggression masked as humor. I think you made my point.
Bub, you are lying through your tooth gap. Do you actually think the examples you cited point to racism and homophobia on the part of O'Reilly? Step away from the crack pipe and get a reality check.
Keith Olbermann lies, and he does so continuosly. Most recently, he told his audience that Bernard Goldberg was fired from CBS News. (Wrong, Bathtub Boy. Goldberg quit.) During the campaign, he spouted something from Think Progress about Sarah Palin cutting the special needs budget in Alaska. Another lie.
And here is the worst feature of Olbermann's "journalism" - his absolute cowardice. He doesn't allow the opposition on his show anymore. His targets are never allowed on so they have a chance to defend themselves. And Olbermann will never go on any conservative talk show to debate the issues. Both Micheal Medved and Dennis Prager invited him on after Olbermann named them both Worst Person.
Olbermann ran away and hid.
Bill O'Reilly's show is a thousand times more informative and honest. That's why he cleans Olbermann's clock in the ratings nearly every night. Put that in your bong and smoke it.
your facts are wrong about countdown. fox is a sham disguised as a news station. i am glad we cant come to any agreement. i want to see you all in the streets soon, and then we can decide who is wrong while we fight the barbarian third world scum that slogs up the usa. lets see you fight the scum gang bangers we have here in lost angeles………. barfbag of the world.
@ Damail
"Do you actually think the examples you cited point to racism and homophobia on the part of O'Reilly?"
I love how you just stated this question like you were stunned and then moved on without any relevant attempt whatsoever to prove that the quotes are not racist and homophobic. Only to immediately call Olbermann a liar - an admission in the post - using an example I used above. HA! That's an O'Reilly fan for ya.
@Damail:
Now who is high? O'Reilly is a fricking joke who lies every five seconds on his show in between bouts of racism, sexism, homophobia and pleasuring himself with vibrators. Keith's enormous ego has a few years to go to reach waste of sperm O'Reilly.
Thanks for once again reminding us how violence-prone some lefties are. Oh, by the way, didn't they teach you to use capital letters in English 101?
And what I said about "Countdown" is 100% accurate.
Maybe if Olbergoebbels wasn't such a coward and had guests on that disagreed with him it could be worth watching for at least a nanosecond. As it stands he only has people on who want to duct-tape their lips to his ass.
I love the braindeads that "prove" that O'Reilly is "better" than Olbermann based on ratings!
I hope these same people enjoy their Britney Spears albums! I mean, she sells a lot more CDs than Beethoven, so she must be better, right? And "American Idol" just must be the best show on TV, I guess!
You guys cite quantity over quality, and that's just laughable. The fact is, only a tiny insignificant percentage of the population watches either of these buffoons. That's the only encouraging thing; if I thought many people allowed themselves to be spun by these two, I'd have an even lower opinion of the ability of American people to reason and think.
I can't stand either of these two blowhards. Anyone getting their political or social views from either of these guys is sadly misinformed and brainwashed.
Brainwashed? Absolutely. The mouthbreather above who says O'Reilly's show is informative and honest is a prime example! I about spit out my coffee reading that!
The comments here show the main problem in America now - people cling to their ideology and party loyalty as hard as they can, and refuse to look at issues objectively and dispassionately. Then they watch Olbermann and O'Reilly for confirmation of their views. Pathetic.
Dead On analysis! O'Reilly appeals to the angry mob who are always looking for a scapegoat.
When you clowns actually know what "racist" means then you can pontificate on the issue. Otherwise get yourself educated.
hmm…one of the definitions of "racism" is "The belief that race accounts for differences in human character".
kind of like how billdo ASSumed that folks eating at the soul food restaurant in Harlem would be screaming obscenities and being rowdy.
he was "shocked" that they simply were sitting and eating, like they would "at any other restaurant".
so, let me spell that out for you. he thought, because the restaurant is owned by a black person, and it's mostly black people who frequent it, that it would be rowdy and full of people saying "mother-f*cker". sounds like he thinks that race accounts for differences in human character.
Why would Palin cut funds for special olympics? Her grand…I mean son is going to be in it one day. Tee hee.
O'Reilly is a sex crazed pervert. After so much calling Jenna Jameson a whore, he tried to get some free porn videotapes from her during the ad break. Plus check out how he leers at his female contributers on the show. Everybody knows old leches like O'Reilly, they think they're charming when they're really just nausea inducing.
He also really dislikes black folks. A lot.
Did you just use a link to NewsBusters to prove that KO 'lied'? Jossip is an idiot.
O'Reilly is a rash that just won't go away. At least Olbermann can be funny.@Aunt Ida: That's just in really poor taste. Shove your "tee hee" up your a**.
@Delilah: He invites opposition screams at them and kills their mike if they are actually able to make their point over his bullying. Everyone has a right to their opinion but people who feel the need to scream,insult, and bully are difficult to take seriously. There seems to be a lack of earnestness among conservatives lately just a lot of sarcasm, cynicism, and apathy. They seem genuinely bewildered that people are excited about the political process and a change in policies.
@anon:
He assumed no such thing. He was using it to point out the misperception of people.
@Aunt Ida: You are disgusting.
to blackflon…
"He was using it to point out the misperception of people."
yes, exactly.
HIS misconception of people.
HE was surprised at how "civil" it was in there. catch that?
HE was surprised…he wasn't talking about other people's reactions to dining at Sylvia's, he was talking about HIS OWN.
Before you write a hit piece like this, it might be a good idea to actually watch the two shows involved. It is obvious you don't watch O'Reilly. Seems funny that the Olbermann is from a few months ago and the O'Reilly lie is from years ago.
Has Bush Derangement Syndrome been replaced by O'Reilly Derangement Syndrome complicated by Foxiphobia?
When you get right down to it, you have to wonder if Bill O'Reilly and Julius Streicher have much in common, and then some.
For one, an unshaken belief in using an oversimplified approach to "patriotic" hate so its target audience of the weak-minded and easily-influenced can grasp it all the sooner.
@anon: Noooooooo! You really need to pay attention to what EXACTLY was said. He never said "I was suurprised". He used the generic "you" as in " You go there and notice how civil are…….." etc, etc, etc.
You;re bias is showing.
Olbermann may not be a racist but he is a total sexist. He has said horrible, degrading things about women in the past.
Damail, what say you of the Paris Business Review?
Ubiased French Periodical? Or snobby French rag?
to blackflon…
why would he comment on how civilized they are if it wasn't HE who was surprised?
here's a tip…when people say "you go in there and notice" they mean "ONE goes in there and notices" and they don't say stuff like that unless THEY are one of the "ones" they're referring to.
to clarify…WITH A DIRECT QUOTE…
"I couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference between Sylvia's restaurant and any other restaurant in New York City. I mean, it was exactly the same, even though it's run by blacks."
did you catch THAT? "even though it's run by blacks"?
JAYSUS you're uninformed. or just dense.
The O'Reilly show is only suitable for psychopaths and mental rejects
Well neither of these guys are 'journalists' and the fact of their very existence on American airwaves point to the direction of the end of American Exceptionalism. (to the google!)
The 'greatest country' in the history of the world and 'the deliverer of liberties' irony is what has the citizens in twenty other greater countries both laughing and crying at the same time.
There are Denali's and Mt. Whitney's to climb to change the light bulbs in the beacon of the 'City on a Hill'.
Good Luck.
Agreed. They are both dicks.
Sorry, Mr. Hauslaib, but the example you give of Keith Olbermann lying was NOT a lie at all — Olbermann's report was not only widely reported across various media, it was accurate. Alaska's 2006 budget for the Special Olympics was $250,000. The Legislature increased the budget for 2007 to $550,000, but Palin used her line-item veto and slashed it to $275,000. While that $275,000 constitutes a 10% increase over the meager '06 budget, it was, in fact, a 50% CUT in what the kids would have had but for Palin and her veto. So, Olbermann was NOT lying. What you may be thinking of is the controversy about Alaska's budget for "special needs" kids. Contrary to some widely reported (including CNN) misinterpretations of "special needs"-related budget items, that particular item was not cut. The Legislature passed legislation to increase that and Palin actually signed it but, according to the lawmakers who authored and pushed through the bill, Palin had NO hand at all in crafting the legislation.
(See http://wthrockmorton.com/2008/.....-olympics/ and
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09.....ner=rssnyt and http://www.factcheck.org/elect.....palin.html)
So, Mr. H, you'll have to come up with some else to frame Olbermann as a liar. ANd I doubt seriously that you'll find anything that comes close to O'Reilly and his made up "facts" about his boycott of France and the "Paris Business Review."
@redsongia: don't insult dicks like that
They are both pathetic….No difference between them, they add nothing to the conversation, any conversation.
One thing to keep in mind about Damail. She is Billo's personal bitch. She goes around to every website that says something negative about her man and defends him with all her might.
the best thing about this is that everyone is argueing over who is worse. thats like having a bunch of people all eat from two piles of crap and then debating which one you like or dislike better. i no longer watch either of them. maybe if we all stopped watching they might go away. unless of course you really like the taste of crap
um, who actually wrote this post? it says "cord," but it doesn't sound like him. maybe it's big Cord's evil twin, little cord.
i'm just sayin'.
We get Fox News here at the trailer park, so we get fair and balanced commentary like Bill O. He would be welcome here, anytime. Bill O is looking out for me like no one else. The spin stops with him and the Factor. Thank god. We love Bill O 'cause he keeps us up to date on all the sexy news stories that the New York Times would never touch. We love it when he drools and froths at the mouth. He's sooooo sexy. By the way….what's a loofa?
And as if one hour of The Factor was not enough, now we get Hannity without the Commie riding shotgun. I tell ya, no one leaves for the local KFC until the final minute of Hannity has disappeared into the vapor.
Ron in Riverside
First of all, I can't tell you what an honor it is to be referenced in a Jossip post. Second of all, here is my argument against Olbermann once and for all.
Olbermann does exactly the same thing for the public discourse that O'Reilly does. He never, ever strays from his talking points and spins each and every story to basically say "Republicans are evil" (it helps that they ARE, but still). Like Michael Moore, his heart is in the right place but he ruins his credibility by selectively tweaking facts. And like O'Reilly, he is a self-righteous, self-important loudmouth who thinks he's saving the world. Worse yet, like O'Reilly he is increasingly "preaching to the choir", telling his equally self-righteous followers exactly what they already know.
The other side of my argument is him personally. The whole "Mackris vs. living with a 17 year old" thing isn't really the point. I know plenty of current and former MSNBC staffers who have told me absolute horror stories about Keith, stories which were re-told in a pre-zombie issue of Radar Magazine. He is famous for his red-faced tirades, his paranoid delusions, and his absolute disdain for his underlings. He refuses to make eye contact with anyone, and asks that subordinates leave notes in a special box in lieu of conversation. When I first heard this stuff, Olbermann was my hero. As I've said before, it was like finding out Santa Claus wasn't real.
Again, I am not saying at all that I think O'Reilly is any better than Olbermann - I think Bush is a goddamn war criminal and Fox News is a shameless mouthpiece for the Republican Party. But the similarities between the two men and their effect on television journalism are too awful to ignore.
Karl…you're nuts. So, tell me, why does FOX news bother you so? What do you think of ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSLSD, NewYorkTimes, PBS, Bill Moyer, etc? The list goes on and on…..Kool Aid drinkers are funny and so lazy, they've never learned to think for themselves. And, you're so hateful because you live only be your emotions. However, all that drivel about Keith Overbite is so true, I'll give you that. He is one demented motherfu*(&^r…..who is only kept on for his pathetic attempt at getting ratings….do you think his ratings match the size of his penis? Just asking.
or who can debate without making personal attacks
Deciding which is the greater liar misses the point. Journalists should not lie at all, not lie less. The proper use of both these pigs is bacon.
We can hope that the new administration will restore the Fairness Doctrine in a better and stronger form than the one the Reagan Administration abolished.
@Delilah: I agree and you have clearly drunk the conservative Kool-aide and are incapable of forming your own views. Everything I have ever read that you posted seems someone else's view that you have co-opted. You just adhere to the typical conservative playbook. I have never read you say anything I have not heard on Fox News 10 times (yes I watch Fox I also watch BBC and CNN). You don't seem to have anything intelligent to add about any actual issues just lots of sophomoric insults. Why don't you to try to use your comments to inform and interface instead of being just another Faux news zombie.
Get real upbraids Delilah for not forming her own views and instead merely coopting others'. He chides her for "having drunk the conservative Kool-Aid" and adhering to the "conservative playbook."
It seems to me that one who favors original thinking should also offer original metaphors.
I'm not a he and I was speaking to her in her own language using the words that I have read her posts over and over. But thank you for offering your opinion.
Okay, I'm going to step out of my normal pain-in-the-ass-poke-a liberal-with-a-stick mode and say something serious to my liberal friends (I do have a few): if you feel obligated to mingle with your own kind and watch MSNBC, please watch Rachel Maddow, not Olberman. She is smart, pleasant, and real. Olberman's act to get ratings is way too prone to bend the truth. You can come away from Maddow's program with confidence that she is being honest with you. And she does have guests that do more than just bob their heads in agreement with her. And this comes from a "repub" most here hate.

Comment #38 - Once again Count Istvan comes over here to lie.
How does steam-powered teevee survive on month-old shit stolen off the internets???
God I love Bill O'Reilly. I think I'll go to bed and dream of blowing him.
@Delilah: Sorry Delilah #4, I will call you on your teaching cred..no one I know dealing with children with developmental disabilities would use the word "retarded." I am currently mentoring a young man who proudly says "When people use the R word about me that is like using the N word to a black person" That you would use such a word demonstrates why you love Billo..
@nogo postal: I saw that comment and knew she was lying also no one who has worked with developmentally challenged people would ever refer to them in that way. It is like so much of what Delilah posts only meant to incite and insult never to inform.
I think Keith is a bit crazy but he was on ESPN so he is okay in my book. O'reilly was on inside edition so who cares.
Comment #52 was not mine.
Both are sham journalists nitpicking facts that support their viewpoint…At least Olbermann is somewhat entertaining. I am tired of him ruining my football though. Personally, I would like to see them fight to the death.
Look if O'Reilly sneezes Olberman better get him a Kleenex! No O'Reilley means the death of Keith Olberman's show.
C'mom Keith and a touch of Rachel Maddow go on and on and on about O'Reilly. How about you produce your own 'condemnations' of the Nation rather than 'What did Bill O'Reilly do today?'.
BTW Keith your ratings are in the basement!
Drew gay, moderate, Democrat
The mind of the conservative is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you shed on it, the narrower it becomes.
@Sportacus: i wanna see humankind fight itself to the death! oh yeah we're doin it already. sweeeeet. popcorn time
Damail is insane. Most of the so called "liberal" comments on here at least admit fault on the part of KO and other fanatical/an/or/misinformed liberals. I'm a liberal, and I know KO can be a total jerk. (And a lying/scummy one at that).
But Damail refuses to admit or see and fault in the conservative talking heads, (most notably Bill). This doesn't make any sense, and it just proves everyone elses point. You are completely brainwashed, and incapable of voicing any of your own thought. Most conservatives I know don't even try to defend Bill anymore. They say "he's funny" or "they get a kick out of him" but they realize how offensive, lying and ridiculous he is as well.
Damail- your posts make you seem delusional.
BillO is the one that said 11 year old Sean Hornbeck probably liked being raped by a 300lbs slob who also held a gun on him.
'Nuff said
You're seriously comparing a technical mistake (which all journalists make) to the numerous barefaced lies and bile that Bildo spews out on a nightly basis? And speaking of hateful people (like Billy) - who wrote this piece? Ya might wanna switch to decaf.
Don't take this article too seriously, kids. It's just another uninformed, "dime-a-dozen" opinion (like mine).
Places like Jossip are where you end up when you're not qualified to do real journalism.
There are:
People that like O'Reilly and hate Olbermann.
People that like Olbermann and hate O'Reilly.
People that hate O'Reilly and hate Olbermann
There are not:
People that like O'Reilly and like Olbermann.
(who don't need medications)
@Delilah: It's nice to see that you're a Mark Levin fan. Yeah, you use his nicknames for KO very well, almost like a robot, a pathetic one at that lol.. So, it's good to know that you're a far-right person, and that your agenda is pretty clear. Don't know why you hide it, since you made it so obvious lol.. Anyway, KO has problems, my main one being that he doesn't invite the other side on to defend themselves. That's completely wrong, and not only that, it isn't entertaining. But, if you think you're getting facts from Mark Levin and Fox News, then you're a complete moron.
On second thought, (though I stand by my opinion that both guys are dicks –but mean no offense to actual "dicks") maybe olberman is worse to me. I'm a moderate lib and I don't appreciate it when he goes over the line and makes things up or exaggerates for sensationalism. And I hate that he says "good night and good luck" at the end of a show, trying to co-opt the hay days of legit media before it all devolved into a giant pundit fest.
O'reilly, I expect to talk nothing but trash, as that's what he's been doing for like 15 years, so even when I listen to him, I can't really hear anything. He's like the waves of the ocean to me.
On NBC's "Football Night in America" halftime show, you can see the pain on the faces of Costas, Collisworth and the Bus when Olberman speaks. Their laughing is so fake. Anybody can see this except NBC.
Olberboyy is an idiot. Egomaniacal, self indulgent, creep.
Here's a place to make your statement about the freak known as "bathtub boy."
http://www.thepetitionsite.com.....-olbermann
Some great stuff there! Star Trek fans, read #223!!
Is this what OReily calls the intrenet smear machine?
Instead of providing a rational, logical evaluation of these mens' performance as jouranlists it just puts on a cheap show of name calling and actually distracts the viewers from the real question at hand: who's a worse journalist.
I find it ironic this is online. If it was printed no one would buy this garbage. The writer has the writing ability of a five year old and the emotional and mental capacities of a 3 year old. The fact that some journalists can actually provide intelligent and (get this) entertaining news on national television must be very angering to one with so little stability.
FUCK IT!!!
WE'LL DO IT LIVE!!!