Here's John McCain completely dodging David Gregory's question about whether he would vote for Sarah Palin in 2012. Six months ago, so desperate was this old dog for power that he was telling all of America he had complete faith in Palin. Now he can't even muster the politeness to say he'd offer her his support if she ran against a fucking timid 12-year-old like Bobby Jindal. With friends like these, it's no wonder Palin has so much aggression that she feels the need to take to the skies with rifles and shoot tired wolves in the back.
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This woman shoots wolves? God, I love her. McCain does not want to jinx her. The reason she is still so discussed is that Democrats fear her. (Did Edwards or Lieberman get any attention after the losing campaigns? nope.)
Wolves kill. Kill them first.
Recipe for Wolf Stew:
Ingredients:
1 chopped onion
1 clove garlic, chopped
2 sticks celery, chopped
2 lbs. wolf assorted parts stew meat, cut into 1 1/2" cubes
1/4 cup soy sauce
1 teaspoon paprika
3/4 teaspoon salt
1/2 teaspoon pepper
3 Tablespoons flour
1 can (10 1/2 oz.) condensed beef broth
1 can tomato sauce and 1 can water
4 large potatoes, peeled and chopped
carrots, chopped (use as many as you like)
@fanofgrendel: Just when I was starting to like you.
she gives hunters a bad name, not to mention republicans, mothers, women and pit bulls.
we're fascinated with her because she's entertaining. she's a character. so is brittany spears. and i wouldn't want her as our president either.
Don't pit bulls have a hard enough time without Sarah Palin riding their coattails?
Aerial hunting is not a good thing.
I hope she is studying up because charisma and adorable winking do not a world leader make. She got her passport 2 years ago has never traveled internationally but is supposed to be the leader of the free world? Only in the Republican party can a soccer mom make more sense than a Harvard educated self-made man.
Why are liberals so worried about a soccer mom? Their obsession with Sarah is unreal. We have a dictator in the making and you folks are worried about a lady with five kids. Amazing!
@getreal: Bill O'Reilly is a Harvard educated self made man. I'm sure that fact earns your reflex admiration as well.
@fanofgrendel: It is impressive. I don't have the knee jerk reaction to demonize people just because they have a different political ideology than me. No is obsessed with Sarah Palin. For some reason people feel the need to constantly bring her up and if you comment you are obsessed. As far as the dictator in the making comment i really suggest you go to college and while you are there take some political science courses because the closest this country came to a dictator since Nixon was our last President. He ignored the constitution and used fear to legislate away civil liberties luckily our current President is reversing those policies.
@anderson cooper is my future husband: I think I just saw your knee jerking. Yep, you are a Bush kicker.
Getreal,
I've been to college and did extremely well in political science.
Now we are going back to Nixon?
@Rhonda: I never said you didn't go to college just like I never cared whether or not you misspelled in your posts. Im not interested in personal attacks it's silly pointless and indicative of an unhappy person which I'm not. as far as Nixon everything I know about him came out of a history book WAY before my time i'm 28.
Sorry it was aimed at AC gay husband wanna be guy. Your a smart girl, you knew that.
Let me first say that John McCain probably thinks that Sarah Palin is an idiot and appeals to the worst of the Republican Party.
However, if McCain had somehow won, and Obama was on Meet the Press, do you think he'd jump to say he'd support a future Biden run? What political sense does that make?
"Why are liberals so worried about a soccer mom?" - Because she is a vulgar liar, a religious extremist, and an intellectual cinder block. She will (and already has) say or do anything to further her celebrity. Because she has no interests above her own. Because she believes that witches are a threat. Because she preaches abstinence for you and me, but not for her own family.
Oh, and as for the dictator comment, Bush didn't worry you? Did you know that recently declassified documents show he had the department of Justice working on a way to overturn the first amendment? You are profoundly stupid.
Nobody fears her…the woman is a moron.
@Kevin: Ah, I found the declassified secret memo:
To: Attorney General
Justice Department
Washington, DC
From: President G.W. Bush
Subject: The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
Dear Alberto,
I've been thinking about things, and I'd like you to overturn the first amendment? Could you get that done by the end of next week? And you know that moron Kevin (expunged)? Please kidnap him so Dick can try out the new water-board. We need to find out if he knows his ass from a hole in the ground.
Sincerely
G.W.
Liberals hate Sarah because she shows by example the saving of human life should be a priority no mater the inconvenience. Liberals would like us to think unborn babies are disposable, like soda cans.
Liberals don't want to face the fact that their disdain for the unborn will be, in the long run, punished.
Conservatives have abortions, too, believe it or not. Save the sermon for church, purest child of God. I have a feeling you're going to be very lonely up there on your pedestal in heaven.
Your tough luck, Zorba.
You sure like to see your name, don't you?
Well, he didn't say he wouldn't vote for her, all he said is that he would have to see which candidates will be running. But it does seem pretty clear that he avoided answering directly "yes" which I guess means he is not all that excited about supporting her. He didn't sound all that excited about Palin. I wonder why.
@Kevin:
perfectly said. sorry fanofgrendel, sarah palin is a kook.
@fanofgrendel: I seriously doubt if a democratic candidate's daughter had a child out of wedlock that you would be praising her for saving a human life.
I'm sure many democratic daughters have been pregnant, their daddy's just don't want them "punished" with a kid, so they just killed it.
I don't know who I am voting for in the next presidential election. You have to be truly ignorant to say you know who you are going to vote for 4 years from now.
I think that the reason people made a big stink about Bristol getting pregnant is that Sarah preached against teaching birth control methods in school and was an advocate for "abstinence only" policies, which didn't even work for her own daughter. And Rhonda, can you please explain to me how you are "sure" many democratic daughter have been pregnant and had abortions? What the f does that even mean? And if anyone does have an abortion it's none of your business.
Part of the reason the Supreme Court went with Roe vs Wade was the very issue of availability of abortions to all women. When it was illegal, only women who could afford it had them, and family doctors & friends always had connections. Women of lesser means tried to give themselves abortions which obviously resulted in horrific injuries and death. Right or wrong, it's not my call to make. It's between a woman and the Spirit in the Sky. Not everyone agrees that life begins at conception, and that is a matter of personal beliefs and religion, which are different for everyone. The Supreme Court agreed.
I'm sorry for anyone who feels they have no other choice, and I know it is a far more complicated and painful a decision for any woman to make than this notion that any woman who has an abortion has a willful disregard for human life. That is simply not the case. I'm not about to set myself up to be judge and jury on this issue. I have yet to find in the Bible where God said for us to pass judgment for Him, cause He can't possibly get to everyone. ESPECIALLY women who get abortions.
Jen,
I doubt their all virgins! I don't give a damn who has an abortion, but why give the girl who keeps her baby so much grief. Bristol sure isn't a welfare queen.
@Rhonda: I am not saying they are/aren't virgins, but ASSUMING they have abortions is a bit of a stretch, no? I don't give a crap whether Bristol has a baby/doesn't have a baby or what have you. It was just an example that abstinence only policies are ineffective with highschoolers and even a teenager who comes from a very religious and conservative background gets knocked up. Whoops
"Bristol sure isn't a welfare queen." what does that have to do with anything? Plus at the age of 18 she has a GED, a kid, no job, and no husband… if that's not a recipe for welfare queen, not sure what is?!?
@Rhonda: Nobody gives the girl grief for having a baby. It's because her mother, like Jen noted, is a very outspoken advocate of abstinence only. Bristol herself said she doesn't agree with her mother's stance on this matter. Sarah Palin needs to recognize that her position on this issue is seriously undermined to the point of ridiculousness by plain old reality.
The mockers of abstinence only views really want to promote an agenda of sex without responsibility including abortion as just a cleanup for a fun night.
I agree. It is not that people hate Sarah Palin or even dislike her it is that her policies did not even work in her own home so how could they possibly work for the country.
@fanofgrendel: Yes, that's EXACTLY what I am trying to promote. LOL.
@getreal: no, you are totally wrong. They really hate her. I watched some of them outside a McCain/Palin rally I attended last fall. The t-shirts they wore. The hate was vivid.
@Jen: You and Zorba will burn together!
Most responsible adults would hope their children would abstain from sex until they are at least old enough to deal with all the consequences that come from sex. Guess what, it doesn't matter what kind of background kids come from, religious or conservative kids are still kids. Babies, Std's, emotional problems, teen suicide is at its highest in the US history (college age)
Do you think all parents just tell their kids to wear a condom and that cures everything! It doesn't cure everything! Sex is a powerful thing and we (as adults) hope young people are mature enough to handle, disease, a baby, rejection, abortion, peer pressure and on and on.
But it is not too late!
@fanofgrendel: I sincerely hope you are kidding. Never picked up the uber-religious vibe from you, what with your insults and judging. God doesn't like people like that.
@fanofgrendel: maybe if you could show abstinence as being a successful program anywhere it wouldn't be mocked. But again, don't let the facts of science get in the way of your distorted beliefs.
@Rhonda: I don't think that telling kids to wear condoms cures ANYTHING. I am just a realist and when you have kids some are going to listen to you and some are not. So, I would rather have my kids know how to protect themselves if they decide to do something I don't approve of then go all willy nilly and have babies and herpes.
@fanofgrendel: Time and statistics have shown that abstinence only education causes sex without responsibility. Stats prove that teens who receive abstinence only education not only still have sex but have UN-protected sex and are more at risk for VD and pregnancy. It is irresponsible to not give teenagers the facts. Look at Bristol Palin if someone had given her and education she would not be an unmarried teen-age mother with a GED she would be a high school student on the way to college. I know myself the girls who didn't talk to their parents about sex and were not told about birth control, and VD were the biggest sluts in high school in college. They were the girls who got knocked-up because they were never taught sexual responsibility. Telling someone don't do it teaches nothing but ignorance and leads to bad decisions. Telling a teenager about unwanted pregnancy and sexually transmitted disease making it clear to them why it is important to wait but giving them the knowledge and the tools to protect themselves if they don't is the only way to lower the teen pregnancy rate. The statistic prove it.
and there is someone who can lead the way
even though some fall by the side.
@Rhonda:
They are not worried about her. They are worried about the minds of the people who vote for her.
@fanofgrendel:
i think a lunatic fringe truly hate her, as the same lunatic fringe from the other side truly hate obama or biden. but for the most part people were incredulous that she was on the ticket. she's just a cartoon character. i think there were better choices for VP, but then again if someone different were chosen, mccain might be president—so i'm pretty happy he choose her :)
p.s. i don't think it's a big deal bristol had a child out of wedlock either, was just ironic given her mother's abstinence only views. guess we'll see the same thing if biden's daughter was really doing coke. at my high school the preacher's daughter was the wildest girl in school–that's what makes news.
@Jen: I was too hard on you, but Zorba is toast!
@Steve:
i have to say i cannot fathom why people like her as a political contender. a sitcom character maybe. after the speech at the convention i was mortified at the smarmy tone, but several friends really ate up the 'hockey mom' angle.
@fanofgrendel: Oh gee, fan, thanks.
@weezy: You betcha!
It is interesting to compare the tone of the conservative arguments above to those to the rest of us burn-in-hell non-believers… very Christian-like indeed.
@perception: the tempting tone of Satan is gentle, even soothing. Until it is too late…
STEVE
56 million people voted for McCain/Palin. I doubt she could have done worse in 60 days than the guy who reads well from the telepromter.
@fanofgrendel: You are a very strange person…
I think Sarah Palin means a lot to people and speaks to their values and that is a good thing. The same way the President speaks to others people values and political points of view. It is normal and professional for a world leader to read off of a prepared speech or a TelePrompTer. Apparently the British newspapers are having a field day making fun of the right wing having a problem with this issue. Something as important as an address to our and country and the world is far too important to give off the cuff. So yes we have a President who CLUTCH THE PEARLS is detail oriented and takes press conference serious enough to prepare for them.
Getreal,
That was a nice little speech, but everyone has heard him without his telepromter and there lies the problem. TOTUS//Never leave home without it!
@fanofgrendel:
"And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you"
…So, you don't eat fish, right?!?
‘You shall not round off the side-growth of your heads nor harm the edges of your beard"
…And I guess you haven't ever shaved?!?
"A woman shall not wear man’s clothing, nor shall a man put on a woman’s clothing; for whoever does these things is an abomination to the LORD your God"
…And surely your wife or daughter have never worn pants?!?
"Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black."
…forget about dying the hair.
"Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth."
… this one I think you need to work on.
@Rhonda: Well I saw him at many rallies on the campaign trail as did millions of Americans without a TelePrompTer and obviously he inspired them. Ronald Reagan almost always used a TelePrompTer at press conferences and I think most Republicans would say he was a great President. Some Presidents do some don't I think it speaks to being detail oriented nothing else.
by inspired, you mean, all those who think they don't have to make house payments anymore and Obama will give them money for gas for their car? Some of us are smarter than that, hope and change. I'm glad so many are happy for what Obama has in mind for them. It's easier that way. Here's hoping you get the CHANGE you deserve.
i know most righties hate the daily kos (that's the emotion lefties feel for fox :) but they did a great piece yesterday about reagan's famous dependence on his teleprompter.
Has the religious right considered starting their own party? I do know a lot of republicans that have had that discussion. I don't think true conservatives will rejoin the Republican party until the zealots are gone.
@Rhonda: I love how you can only argue extremes. you can always pull a quote from the bible if you that fails you.
huh?
@Rhonda:
"all those who think they don't have to make house payments anymore and Obama will give them money for gas for their car?" … one person made this ridiculous statement, no one believed it.
"That was a nice little speech, but everyone has heard him without his telepromter and there lies the problem."… seriously? I mean know he doesn't have oratory skills of GW or Bobby Jindell, but are you going to continuously make this petty argument?!?
"I'm sure many democratic daughters have been pregnant, their daddy's just don't want them "punished" with a kid, so they just killed it."… wait, you sure you didn't mean ALL?!?
"We have a dictator in the making and…" again, push it to the extreme and then maybe you can make a point.
There are a lot of gray areas in between. but I guess you haven't got out of the "you either with us or against us" mentality.
aw, shades of gray!
@Rhonda: No one thinks that but Republicans. This is a new spin on the welfare queens themes of the 80's-90's. If you ever actually listened to one of the Presidents speeches you would know he stresses personal responsibility, responsibility to your country, responsibility and to your community. Look if you want to as a rational adult believe these silly ideas like the Obama is a messiah or he is going to take people money and give it to the poor like robin hood so be it. There were a lot people who hated Kennedy because he was Catholic and were convinced he was going to let the Vatican take over the country and force people into Catholicism history proved those people were ridiculous. We laugh at those people now. People who sound ridiculous alarms and fantasies because they are disappointed their party did not win and are too lazy to roll up there sleeves and work on improving this country. So make up stories and try to scare people. Be ridiculous if you want to it seems like you revel in it.
I want to be like Getreal, lost in Hope and Change!
@Rhonda: Not lost I just believe in hard work and responsibility. At a certain point complaining without working to make things better is just self indulgent.
This woman is bad news. She is a "patriot" who shows support for the secessionists, she is a "great mom" and her kid is a pregnant unmarried high school drop out. She wants to be the leader of the free world but she has never seen any of it. But she is a soccer mom so the Republicans think she is qualified because she uses small words and they feel they can relate to her folksy charm. She runs the state where every resident gets an actual check from the oil companies (talk about welfare). She professes to be a voice for the disabled but will be turning down stimulus money that would include a sizable amount of money for services and education for the disabled. She is a liar, a hypocrite, and a phony. Mc Cain was projected to win till he hitched his horse to her and probably would have if he had picked a good candidate to run with. That was when he lost my vote. I hope people keep supporting her keep rallying around a soccer mom instead of a qualified candidate it only helps democrats or independents like myself.
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those residents (getting welfare) are tribes of indians that inhabited the state. They pretty much owned it—get it?
@anderson cooper is my future husband: You better tell future hubby to get on the ball. Greta has be kicking his butt lately.
I wonder what John Kerry thinks of his former running mate?
@Rhonda: Another lie. EVERY resident of Alaska get a check (bribe) from the oil companies. Look it up.
@fanofgrendel: Keep playing with silly pictures that's why no one takes you seriously and ignores you most of the time. You are a joke. Keep proving my point by putting up silly things like a lonely 13 year old.
Greta and her husband are pretty highly ranked Scientologists, grendel. She's not anyone to necessarily want an endorsement from.
@anderson cooper is my future husband: umm…is this you?
@fanofgrendel: No I'm a man that is your wife.
Every citizen of Alaska gets a check from the oil companies. Right, their tribes were the original owners of the state (they are indians) they agreed to share with (all citizens) of Alaska. I don't think its a huge amount. A couple of thousand, per person. There are benefits to being an American indian as well.
@anderson cooper is my future husband: looks like you have some serious competition. Hope you have something to offer Anderson other than your obvious charm.
perception, where the hell did you go? I was just about ready to give you the old one-two!
@Rhonda: White,Black,Asian,Native American. Don't make this a native american issue it is everyone in that state. Interesting how now you are in favor of welfare if it is in your precious soccer moms state.
I like Sarah Palin but she doesn't walk on water. I don't make everything OK because its Sarah. I'm not that vested in her. She is a politician.
@Rhonda: Now you change your tune because you can't defend her. You always back down when confronted with facts because you are just an ignorant sow and a bully. I've seen you attack anyone who isn't in favor of your precious soccer mom and bitch about how people pick on her uneducated knocked up daughter. We have all read you post this stuff for months. She is a liar, a hypocrite and I see why you like her it must be like looking in the mirror.
@Rhonda: What side are you on, exactly? You're doing left leaning people no favors here, and you jump on anyone who has a different opinion than you. Sanctimonious cow yourself.
@anderson cooper is my future husband: Rhonda, that was actually aimed at Anderson Cooper's biggest fan up there. Not you! Sorry for the confusion.
Oh, and vice versa. Whatever. you get my drift.
@bam-a-lam: You turn on everyone don't you.
Yeah right drug dealer you meant it.
@anderson cooper is my future husband: Ooooh, I'm so fucking devastated by your assessment.
You are that is why you are keeping this going. I have read your posts here you are a bottom feeder.
@anderson cooper is my future husband: is this you with Anderson?
he doesn't have a restraining order against you does he?
you aren't one of those creepy stalkers are you? I have one of those vermin, but mine is kind of lame.
I like Sarah, I dislike post that pick on Bristol and Trig. Don't like it. Is that hard to understand?
Obama had to take 500 people with him to Europe. Thats alot of people to run his telepromter and do Shellys make-up.
Another Obama person, the 15 with tax problems, do any of Obama's friends in politics pay taxes, doesn't appear to be any!