Cord, I am sorry, but please try to do SOME kind of research! It's called the "fair tax" based on what you consume (rather than taxing what people earn) and does not include essentials (milk and bread). It is based on the concept that we are all ENTITLED to participate in the process of voting, we should all PARTICIPATE in paying for it. How could a liberal possibly argue with that?

no tax out of your paycheck, you pay for what YOU buy! No more Income tax Day, just pay tax at 21% for what you buy vs 31% of what you EARN! "ITS FAIR, EVERYONE PAYS, Take the political parties out of our wallets, No April 15, who could complain about that. That's why they call it the Fair Tax!!

no tax on food or medicine, its a great plan.

No taxes on anything. What a good plan. The roads will maintain themselves, schools will pay for themselves, water will purify itself. And for those in the cheap seats the riches people in America already pay 31% tax and under the new plan will only pay 33%. Do conservatives even know what they are protesting about? It is mystyifying.

Spoken like true liberal, who's gonna pay for the welfare? All of Us, don't worry Barry's not gonna do anything to stop your beloved, TAXES! at 21% it would equal the same as the 31% from taxes, it would be more of a consumption tax rather than a achievement tax. More people would share the thrill of paying taxes. I've just begun to read about it, so still have alot to learn, its just a different way of paying the bills without dividing people or taxing the fruit of labor. Tax what we consume NOT what we earn! Works out the same.

@Rhonda: Well genius I already pay 32% taxes and so do a lot of people thanks for brilliant idea that someone else thought of years ago. Since you don't seem to want to pay your fair share you should go on welfare. Conservative welfare "we should have to pay taxes" "we love america but we want to secede". Un-American bullshit.

Getreal, did you get the job as the Obama's ass-kisser yet?

No you beat me to the job. You are the biggest Obama ass-kisser I've ever seen you are obsessed with him you bring him into every subject. He seems to be your sole reason for living. You never talk of anything else. You even call him Barry like he is your boyfriend. Creepy.

It's funny democrats want exemplary Ivy league educated super achievers to be our leaders. Republicans want soccer moms and plumbers to be theirs. T'm just saying.

All liberals really really hate Joe because he was the one person before the election that got Barack the socialist to show his true face.

are you talking about affirmative action community organizer and his affirmative action community outreach wife. Those aren't achievers those are social workers.

or political activist depending on point of view

@fanofgrendel:

That's why Barry doesn't go anywhere without his telepromter, doesn't want those little slips.

No one hates Joe he seems like a nice enough guy but I would rather be lead by someone who is exemplary than someone mundane. His name is not even Joe and he isn't even a plumber he is a character he created to get famous. Don't believe me look it up his name is not really Joe and he doesn't even have a plumbers license he didn't even have the money to buy that imaginary business what he is is a great self promoter who knew he could say his name was Joe the plumber and naive republicans would believe him without ever actually checking his story. More power to the guy if he makes some people feel better about their lives good for him.

@getreal: there you go with the liberal talking points.

His friends call him "Joe" and that's what he goes by.

He is not a licensed plumber, but a lot of his general contracting work is plumbing work.

The Democrats in Ohio were so scared of him that they violated his privacy and wound up paying the price for it, and more will. Yes, a lot of them hate Joe. The vitriol is extensive.

Read this.
http://blog.cleveland.com/open.....e_the.html

What Getreal doesn't understand, is that its not that we think there should be no taxes, its that we believe that government should not be spending our money on the boat loads of items, policies, and programs that it has no business being involved with.

Wow, did you see the sparks flying between Barry and Chavez, I think its love. is Michelle with him or is he on boys night out. lol

Just did a google check, Michelle stayed home! Barry's getting lucky! He's got all his commie friends, coming over tonight!

Rhonda, you are a true dip shit. The article wasn't about a tax proposal, it was about the "99 cents" people pay to vote. A vote, which I might add, is useless for other than some redneck, backwoods statistical purposes. I doubt Joe understands what statistics are, since he isn't even an actual plumber. he does know, however, that he is getting a cut of that 99 cents.

My God, you people are true morons. How do you live? By "snake oil salesman" the article meant "scam".

Honestly, Rhonda (I still think you are some fat, drunken young republican, by the way) how could you be that fucking stupid?

Exactly how much swamp land do you own? Madoff would have LOVED you.

@getreal: Hey GETREAL, it's obvious Rhonda is about as sharp as a spoon. I actually think she is funny. I actually want to sell her my old car. If I tell her it would benefit the right wing, the dumb bitch would probably buy it.

And yeah, I STILL think that Rhonda is a fat, pink, repulsive young republican shit bag, which is why I called her a bitch.

I can just imagine them counting the votes now:

"This caller say yes, this caller say yes. Now, less see. Carry the one. So that knot one plus two. Aw chucks lost count. gimme another Busch lite Jethro. This countin' and carryin' the remainders on those columns is hard work. Chucks an' fuckit."

@getreal: another thing GETREAL. You are far too intelligent to argue with Rhonda or FOG. The next time they post one of their idiotic rants, just remember: You can't fix stupid.

@Rhonda: Why, Rhonda? You jealous? I always knew you had a little hankering for South American men. Oh, and yes, I still think you are a male.

@Rhonda: Have another cupcake chubs. Oh, and watch those fantasies. I don't think your frat brothers would appreciate your true appetites for hot man on man action.

Have you seen the pictures of Barry and Chavez? I mean they are really happy to see each other. I'm serious, the sparks were flying!

I wish I had a cupcake with whipped cream frosting, sounds really good.

Keep the fantasies alive, toots. Remember, a low cal frosting may be a bit more bland, but will do the trick. Gotta keep those man boobs under control.

I feel bad, I mean, I have to come clean…I'm really a limp-wristed poofter from San Fran, and when I'm not packing fudge with Big Ron, I try to sound all macho and tough (Not to mention smart) by insulting people not from gay town. But its just puttin too much strain on my wittle heart, and I apologize for being such and insensitive fairy queen.

Wonder why he didn't take Michelle?

She'd really razzle-dazzle on those commies!

@Real Man: Nice try, Rhonda. Or should I call you FatFuckYoungRepublicanRetardFromCollegeStation. Too bad I'm too much for you. I really would have appreciated some intellectual discourse. Unfortunately, you are not intellectual and you have absolutely no fucking idea what discourse means, so we are at a loss. So party on dude, and keep posting those totally idiotic and shamefully false comments of yours. I thoroughly enjoy ripping them, and you, apart. Keep up the stupid, you dumb bitch!

Watch your blood pressure, real man

@Real Man: Honestly, don't you think you could have done better. Even the most boring of republicans (which describes pretty much ALL republicans) would have made that false post a LITTLE more interesting. Jeesh, it's not even funny. Honestly, if you are going to troll me, at least consult with someone funny (liberal) before you attempt. Otherwise, whoever wrote that dribble was just plain feeble. Let me geuss who wrote it, freshman pledge at George Bush Is An Alpha Fagga New?

Well I did laugh, so I guess you win! haha

@ #10 fanofgrendel:
how exactly did he get obama to "show his true face"?

joe the plumber is a tool, and he didn't get under the democrats skin. we viewed him just like sarah palin and tea bagging. bring it on, it's entertainment.

Obama didn't have his telepromter with him and Joe asked a simple question and Obama said, well I'm going to tax your earnings and give it to losers who don't earn anything because thats fair and our lame media had never asked such a simple straight forward question and Barry usually had his telepromter to tell him the right answer. Any hoot it was a little "moment of truth" that sent all the democrats in government over the edge. The IRS came after him and employment people and humane resourse people (some lost their jobs and the lawsuit against the state of Ohio is gonna be big, all those little acorns getting Joe's personal info and giving it to media. Private citizen Joe the Plumber had lost his right to privacy because he had DARED to ASK OBAMA a question! JOE THE PLUMBER, A TRUE AMERICAN HERO. Unless your a liberal! Joe, outed Obama for the socialist he is.

"Joe the Plumber" really is a pretty bad spokesman. He's not a licensed plumber and if he were, he would be too busy working to be lurking around TV cameras. I think Republicans might want to pick their "everyday man" just a bit more carefully. This guy is what you'd call a dipstick, poser, faker, dumbass, baaaad example.

Bam,

No one picked "Joe the Plumber" he asked Obama a guestion, Obama blew the question and democrats within the government used their office computers to "go after him" he SHOULD be everyone's hero, a citizen should be able to ask a candidate a question without the power of the state and entire news media coming down around his head.

"Obama said, well I'm going to tax your earnings and give it to losers who don't earn anything because thats fair and our lame media had never asked such a simple straight forward question and Barry usually had his telepromter to tell him the right answer."

that is wrong on so many levels. obama simply said the middle class has suffered enough, and the wealthy shouldn't be the only ones to benefit from a tax break–hence the dreaded spreading of the wealth that turned into a catch phrase. mind you, you can actually find mccain saying the exact same thing on youtube.

the reason people dug into the background of 'joe' (who continues to court the media, so why is he immune to scrutiny?) is because we were interested in 'joe the planted plumber'- the fact is that this guy is the very one who would benefit from the so-called spreading of the wealth. that's the irony.

he did not expose any great socialist agenda of obama to the public–obama WON by a hefty margin–he simply became a cartoon hero to the fringe right. you can have him. to the rest of us he is great entertainment.