What could be better than a media discussion between David Carr, Bob Garfield, and Mike Lacey? Ok, fine, just about everything. But you can actually listen to this one … just in case you missed it (as we did) when it aired May 5.

But it is always fun to watch people fumble around for overly analytical answers to why just about everybody quit the Village Voice when Lacey took over. What we've extrapolated is that he was an extremely demanding boss with these crazy expectations of what is the most important thing about working at a newspaper and running a newsroom.

I said you need to pick up the phone and interview people. I want you to do fundamental reporting and not simply riffing about what had occurred to you that day. And apparently, that was too much to expect.

And when half the ex staffers flee to Rolling Stone, where the tasks of reporting is secondary to the tasks of keeping your desk clean and re-writing your reviews to compliment FOJs (Friends of Jann's) they will finally have found their place.

Alt-Upheaval [On the Media via Romenesko]