Watch Two Aging White Men Argue About Race

What’s worse: Pat Buchanan’s race rants, or Chris Matthew’s self-righteousness? Transcript of last night’s Hardball below.

Pat Buchanan: “You’re saying Democrats in West Virginia voted for racist reasons against Obama?”

Chris Matthews: “No, that’s a strong word. No, they said themselves when asked by pollsters on leaving, ‘Did race play a part in your judgment? And the answers of a significant number was yes. That’s their own statement, not anyone else’s.”

Pat Buchanan: “Okay, let me ask you this. Did you make the same statement, Chris, about the 92 percent of black women who voted for Barack Obama in Philadelphia? Did you ask them how many years of education they had?”

Chris Matthews: “Sure, we ask the same questions of everybody.”

Pat Buchanan: “Did you say, hey, African American dropouts are for him?”

Chris Matthews: “Pat, these exit polls are conducted on a random basis. They are not conducted based on your ethnic profile. They are based on the random nature of all polling to try to discern the truth.

Buchanan: “Well, Chris, what were the people voting on? What were the African American community in Philadelphia voting on, that gave him 90 percent, if not the fact that Barack Obama was one of them. West Virginia, Hillary was one of us. But West Virginia gets trashed and Philadelphia is wonderful.”

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Pat Buchanan: If Barack Obama were not an African American, he would have been beaten by John Edwards. He would not be the nominee. It is far more of a positive for him, not only in the African American community, but with the Chris Matthews’ of the world and in the suburbs, liberal suburbs. Far more than it is a negative. And you know that.

Chris Matthews: Let me get Andrea to get in here. Andrea?

Andrea Mitchell: “I would disagree with that. I think that it’s a real stretch to say that there are enough African American voters who are self-identifying or supporting Barack Obama. His appeal in Iowa had nothing to do with African American voters. It was Iowa that lifted him above the other Democrats in the race and set him on this trajectory. It was very smart, targeted, organized campaigning in caucus states by the Obama campaign.

Pat Buchanan: Well, I think your buddies, Chris, Geraldine Ferraro and Joe Biden, they might have been knocked over for what they said, but what both of them have said was a ‘gaffe’ because it was true.

Matthews: You know what I hope is true. I hope that the world my kids live in where they don’t think about race as a dividing issue, they don’t even mention that their teachers are black, and sometimes they date interracially and don’t even talk about it, they don’t make a big issue about it. I hope that becomes our country some day, Pat. Do you agree? Would you like to see that country?

Buchanan: Look, I would like to see Dr. Martin Luther, the King dream of one nation, one people. Chris, that ain’t the world we live in, and you gotta describe reality, not what you would with it to be.

May 15, 2008 · Link · 3 Responses
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Comments (3)

No. 1 Mudcat Jackson says:

The Pat Buchanan exchange with Chris on race is reflective of denial and the inability of many americans to face reality. The people of West Virginia said what they meant race matters to them.
Having acknowledged that race matters they cannot claim that their
deplorable economic condition, lack of health care and inability to acquire the caliber of education which will enable them to compete in a global economy is due to affirmative action. Additionally, they have proven by example that White intellectual superiority and common sense is a myth.

Posted: May 15, 2008 at 1:12 pm
No. 2 Hillary says:

Face it, it is about race and gender no matter how they spin it. I myself will not vote for Barack, I would rather vote Republican. I think he is green, his wife is a liability, worse than Theresa Heinz Kerry, but nobody will tackle that, the media is still handling the Obamas with kid gloves. I was disgusted by John Edwards’ endorsement of Obama, he is an opportunist that has probably been promised a key spot in the administration, nobody does anything for nothing, they called Bill Richardson Judas for turning on Hillary, I think Edwards is worse, you can see the fake phony he is right up to his toupee.

Posted: May 15, 2008 at 4:16 pm
No. 3 just me says:

Why all the hate for Michelle Obama? I think she is an intelligent, strong woman who has accomplished much in her life. She seems quite an asset to me-she will be a great First Lady! YES WE CAN! Obama ‘08

Posted: May 16, 2008 at 11:38 pm
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